Wednesday, February 08, 2006

Why WoW is a bad game, reason #6

Lack of original ideas
“One quirk – I won’t say problem – about the Horde, is that they are not attractive, and their lands tend to be harsh. So we wanted to give players a more appealing, beautiful race that also fits thematically with the Horde.”
-Jeffrey Kaplan, World of Warcraft lead designer,
Computer Gaming World, December 2005

The above statement from Jeff K himself (Tigole), was about why Blizzard choosed Night Elves for horde, he didn't mention that it would save them lots of slack. Practically it's a slightly re-modeled Night Elf with a color change, and that means that they don't need to rework all the armors in the game to fit the "new" race. Blood Elves is the "new" race for the horde...

"I've voiced this a couple of times, but I think it bares repeating.

In almost every interview, faq, etc., Blizzard has mentioned the gameplay with be easy to jump into and be geared torward drawing in new players, which is fantastic idea. My main fear is that in doing this, they will go overboard and make the gameplay too simplistic, turning it into a hack, slash, find good items, heal, repeat, game like Diablo 2. I love Diablo 2, but it's an item finding game (or at least that's what it's turned into) and that's not what WoW should be. WoW should have more soul, more background. It should be not about who has the best armor and weapons, but about exploring the World of Warcraft and meeting the people inside of it.

So I implore you, please give WoW the soul and creativity it deserves. Make it more than the sum of its parts. That's what it needs to make it truly great."
-BlackDraco, September 01 2002

The story of World of Warcraft is a continuation on the Warcraft series, which it also should be, but it's still not very original. The whole fantasy concept of the game with Night Elves, Dwarfs, Orcs, Gnomes (Hobbits), Dragons and mostly every other creature in WoW is inspired by the standard Tolkien kind of fantasy. The gameplay is very similiar to Diablo II, with its repetitive hack & slash ideas, and the single goal of striving for better items.

The few ideas that are actually somewhat original is mostly exploited to the extent that it doesn't feel new and fresh at all, but used and boring instead.

Most of the "new" features such as battlegrounds, honour and "world events" was either inspired by or a direct visiualization of ideas from Guardians of Azeroth forum members. Sure it's nice to listen to the community, but to do it 3 years late and call it new, is not. Pyaray, who were one of the forum members, has been employeed by Blizzard. A interesting note is that his name was once on the top of the reserved names list.

"Arena- This will be much bigger than a Duel. Players enter a "zone" that has been specially marked as a battlefield. Only a certain amount of people are allowed to enter a battlefield. You enter the battlefield, choose one of two sides and just start fighting. If you die you DO NOT suffer any consequences, you are just removed from the battle. Once a battle has begun no one else can join until one team has won. To win, one of the following things has to happen: one team, kills all members of the opposing force, one army surrenders, or all the players of one team just leave the battlefield. There will be number of battlefields throughout the world. A guild/faction may reserve a battlefield by contacting a GM."

A few topics from Guardians of Azeroth forums:
Reputation (September 01 2002)
Unique Mobs (September 27 2002)
Spawn and Loot Rules (September 29 2002)
Chat System (September 30 2002)
Gurubashi Arena and Duels (October 07 2002)
Item Creation (November 04 2002)
World Events (November 08 2002)
Class Specific Items (November 16 2002)

20 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uh, none of those suggestions were implemented in WoW in any meaningful way. Yes, WoW has a mechanic called "Reputation", but it has nothing to do with the suggestion. Yes, WoW has instanced PvP, but that's nothing new, and WoW's BGs have very little in common with the suggested "Areanas".

World events are nothing new, and I've never seen them claimed as such. Nor is having customizable chat, or ways of letting other people in your group loot items. "Hay, AO's loot system sucks" isn't some massivly insightful comment.

09:14  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The above statement from Jeff K himself (Tigole), was about why Blizzard choosed Night Elves for horde, he didn't mention that it would save them lots of slack. Practically it's a slightly re-modeled Night Elf with a color change, and that means that they don't need to rework all the armors in the game to fit the "new" race. Blood Elves is the "new" race for the horde...


From i believe it the site manager...check your grammer...Choosed nightelves...damn you seem really retarded in more ways then one

23:10  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saying Blizzard chose Blood Elves to be "lazy" is just about the most ignorant position you can take. BOTH new races have a higher polygon count than any of the other races and are completely new. Obviously a blood elf will look SIMILAR to a night elf, but you stretch it too far. You're the do-whatever-I-want, no-regards-to-morals type, so go take a stroll through Silvermoon (and the other new areas) yourself and tell me all that NEW content is just rehashed previous content with no real effort put into it.

Seriously, you make SOME good points, but you come across as such a whiner the way you word things, what with this "series" being called "Why WoW is a bad game" and all. I mean, WoW is only the most highly acclaimed MMO (I'm talking acclaim from critics, not just fans) ever, and beats the snot out of everything that came out before it. Sure, there are annoyances and boring portions, etc., but saying WoW is "bad" because of them is... stupid. WoW is a major step forward in the continuing evolution of the MMO.

Complete "realism/customization/everything-is-unique-ness" is simply not doable most of the time. For example, confronting the point made in another one the entries in this "series": Do you really NEED to move chairs and stuff around to have fun? It would be nice, sure, but generally speaking, it adds a whole lot more problems than it's worth in most cases. Even most *single-player* games (where it's much easier to do and less likely to cause problems) don't let you do this, yet you say WoW is "bad" because it doesn't allow such interaction? Chill.

11:41  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Me again. One last thing about World of Warcraft's supposed lack of unique ideas as far as lore goes.. (I'm not touching on your silly "battlegrounds etc aren't unique" statements since, well, much of these in-game functions ARE unique to this game while others are not, but you seem blinded by your hate for this game you are apparently still addicted to so I don't see how I could convince you to open your eyes about that.)

WoW takes a completely unique take on SO many things. Do you pay any attention to the lore? Sure, there are orcs, there are dragons, there are satyrs, etc... but Warcraft adds a UNIQUE spin to these and many other things. The orcs aren't just plain evil - some of them are noble, while others cling to demonic corruption and seek out power. There's DEPTH. The dragons aren't simple monsters - the story behind the Dragon Aspects is completely unique. And lastly - for my examples anyway, as there is much much much more if you'd uncover your eyes and ears - the satyrs. Satyrs in Warcraft are unlike ANY other depiction of satyrs anywhere. Where else do satyrs have the twisted look they do here? And certainly I can think of nowhere else that satyrs are a twisted form of elves, let alone demonic in origin.

Lastly, do you have any idea how long it takes to design, program, and properly test a game? "Sure it's nice to listen to the community, but to do it 3 years late and call it new, is not." There are SO many ideas out there that are of some worth, some of which may work their way into the game in the future. Does an idea's age make it less valuable? Should Blizzard only implement things that were suggested recently? Or are you saying that Blizzard should implement every single good idea they have NOW? For crying out loud, PLAYER/GUILD HOUSING is an idea that's been on the table for YEARS and is still NOT RULED OUT. If they implement that in the next expansion, you'll find some way to complain about that, won't you? You truly have no concept of how design and implementation of massive projects works, do you? Or is your bitterness just short-circuiting such logic in your brain? I suspect a combination of the two, though the latter's all that's needed and seems the primary problem, judging by the other entries in this "Why WoW is a bad game" series.

Again, I close with this: Chill.

12:04  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People people people, I can see where your coming from and what he said may or may not be true. Me personally i cant complain about the game at all ive been playing for almost a year and never get tired.. leveling my 3rd character. Ive found that to get rid of the boredom of repeating the same thing is to just play the other faction for a couple weeks. It helps seeing new scenery for a change. At any rate i dont think you guys shouldnt even be posting comments if you have nothing nice to say abot this. This is his blog he is entitled to his opinion.. Who died and said you can come on here and do nothing but flame and bitch and moan... If you disagree thats fine but GET THE FUCK OFF if you cant respond nicely. Again its his blog.

14:10  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The whole fantasy concept of the game with Night Elves, Dwarfs, Orcs, Gnomes (Hobbits), Dragons and mostly every other creature in WoW is inspired by the standard Tolkien kind of fantasy.

Ahem... I'm trying to do this as nicely as possible.

WoW Orcs = A shamanistic race (was demon possesed at one point) from another world.

Tolkiem Orc = Elves captured and tortured by Morgoth, untill they became a twisted form of themselves.

WoW Night Elves = As far as can be figured from lore, most likely trolls that "mutated" after they found the Well of Eternity.

Tolkien Elves = One of the races called the Children of Illuvater(sp), the other being Man. And the first sentient race in the world.



I'll go on some more, but... My point is... Of the fanatasy worlds I know of, the Warcraft World is actually one of the most orginal ones around. Yes, it borrows some concepts fomr other place, but it also puts unique spins on them.


~Just a random guy (Nothing can be truelly original)

01:09  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

stop complaining and make a better game

22:52  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dude, Jesus Christ. Before you flame the game fix your fucking grammar and spelling. It just makes you sound like an ignorant asshole everytime you use words like "CHOOSED" or "TOOTHS". The past-tense of the verb "to chose" is "chose" and the plural form of the word "tooth" is "teeth" l2grammar and l2spell. Till then, shut the fuck up noob.

19:51  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree to this to an extent but will not be a looser and FLAME...(nudge nudge annoying anonymous)...HOW CAN YOU TELL HIM TO FIX HIS VOCAB WHEN YOUR SAYING "fix your fucking grammar" or "shut the fuck up ass hole" ...

Jeez someone misspells a few things and you want to kill him

11:24  
Blogger James said...

"I agree to this to an extent but will not be a looser and FLAME...(nudge nudge annoying anonymous)"


Wtf is a "looser"?

Surely you don't mean "loser."

Yes, this guy has horrible grammar, so bad, that in some points, it's almost impossible to read.

10:11  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"PLAYER/GUILD HOUSING is an idea that's been on the table for YEARS and is still NOT RULED OUT"

I think that the player housing should be like the last step in the bank where it's just like a chest in the normal playing world behind that unused nstance door in Stormwind(the one behind the portcullis just off the walkway by canals) where you enter it and place as many items as you like in the chest.
Guild housing would be nice and there could bu several guild notes on the walls just like the GMOTD and they would only need a small room exactly the same as a room in any other part. and to be honest you wouldn't even need it instanced in IronForge as there are so many unused/only 1 NPC buildings about so they're already half way there.
But as you said you can't just make every idea a reality and if they did this blog would have
"Why WoW is a Bad Game #300" As there are so many ideas about

Galvon @ Argent Dawn EU RP server

12:05  
Blogger Steve said...

looser is actually a word to describe someone's personality

not strict, exact, or precise

not the same as loser but dont feel you can flame everyone for mispelling if you're not certain they actually mispelled :)_

19:13  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

stop complaining and make a better game

Ouroboros

21:41  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This isn't true. Blood Elves have a significantly different model from Night Elves, and all new animations, emotes, etc.

11:51  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"From i believe it the site manager...check your grammer...Choosed nightelves...damn you seem really retarded in more ways then one"

LOL HYPOCRISY
Lets check YOUR grammar, shall we?

"From i believe it the site manager..."
- What the fuck is this? I can't make it out.
- You didn't capitalize I either.
- ELLIPSES ARE NOT FUCKING PUNCTUATION YOU EMO DIPSHIT!


"check your grammer..."
- Irony. "Check" needs to be capitalized.
- None of this emo punctuation bullshit.
- IT'S SPELLED "grammar" DUMBASS, DON'T TELL PEOPLE TO CORRECT THEIR POSTS WHEN YOU CAN'T MAKE A SIMPLE POST EITHER.

"Choosed nightelves..."
- It's "Choose nightelves.", dipshit, and that's not even right.

"damn you seem really retarded in more ways then one"
- Damn needs to be capitalized.
- Yet you seem to be able to far surpass him on the retard scale. Well done :D

00:36  
Anonymous Charchy said...

"damn you seem really retarded in more ways then one"

I believe that you meant to put "Than" rather than "Then".
Or are you a little bit special?

04:59  
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22:07  
Anonymous hcg said...

Very exclusive photo and article thanks for sharing.

14:55  
Anonymous Kamagra said...

I have loved the charater that you have given

12:00  
Anonymous Martin said...

good review although as you say it lacks original ideas, biologist

17:55  

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