Thursday, February 09, 2006

Why WoW is a bad game, reason #7

Instancing

One of the best things about WoW is also one of the worst things. I'm talking about instances. It's great to be able to go on a adventure with your guild without being disrupted by others or have to wait in line to kill a boss. But having soo many instances in WoW also have a negative impact on the community itself. It's no longer possible to go into a dungeon alone and just spontaneously group together with the people you'll find there, and no, meetings stones isn't a working solution for this.

This means that people who don't have enough people in their guilds will be forced to stand in the middle of the major cities and spam "Looking for group/more/priest" in a hour or two, just to be able to enter the dungeon. This is both time consuming and defiles the other so important chat channels with spam and ruins the community feeling in-game. Also big guilds tend to become very elitish because of this, and refuses to cooperative with other guilds and players.

The other very appearant negative side effect instancing have is to suck the world dry from players. Each server hosts a maximum of 5000 players each and most often only half of that amount play together at once. There's around 25 instances in the game, and they require a group of 5-10 people or a raid of 40 people to be able to clear them. That means if just 10 of the big guilds are doing raid instances, that's 400 people gone from the server.

The introduction of battlegrounds didn't do much to improve the situation. Above is a screenshot from Hillsbrad Foothills, where people just spontaneously lined up together to counter-attack the horde. Although this isn't the best example of cooperation between players and world PvP, it proves my point somewhat.

This is Hillsbrad Foothills again, before Alterac Valley was released, after that this area became almost empty. The same thing happens with every other area of the game, they become vast of players and you can no longer visit a area with the intention to brawl with the enemy players or cooperate with members from your own faction.

Blizzard constantly releases more and more instances into the game, so the effect will be more and more appearant with each new introduction of a instance. In no way is a instance needed for every little dungeon in the game.

21 Comments:

Anonymous Ortopedico said...

Completely in agreement.

21:53  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps try another game? :P

03:21  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmm, i think you are wether totally wrong nor totally right.

It's true that it is bad to have to spam the city-chat for dungeon-groups. In this case I think the meeting stone principle is wrong. - Why are they near the dungeon entry? Why bother to tavel there just to find noone is looking for a group? A system like that for the battlegrounds would be much better. One central meeting-stone in every major city, where you can join multiple queues for different dungeons.

It's wrong that the world would be more populated if dungeons wouldn't be instanced. - People would want to explore dungeons nevertheless and the "open world" would be just as "full" or "empty" as if the dungeons were instanced. - With the difference that non-instanced-dungeons would build queues for Boss/Quest Mobs and you could get killed in the middle of the dungeon by members of the opposing fraction.
And there are more problems like you could enter a dungeon with 100 players and just complete it with brute force instad of skill and tactics.

Concerning battlegrounds:
You said: "The same thing happens with every other area of the game, they become vast of players and you can no longer visit a area with the intention to brawl with the enemy players..."
I think that was the intention behind battlegrounds. To FIND a place were you can fight the "enemy". Battlegrounds are an environment were players of roughly the same level and numbers battle each other. That's fair. To get killed by a group three times as big as yours or slaughtered by a ?? highlevel is no fun. - It's pvp alright, but it's no fun. - And if you're looking for out-of-battleground trouble, visit Stranglethorn or Stromgarde. There still is a lot of open pvp going on.

have fun
Robert

14:10  
Blogger Akumi said...

you see the only thing bad about instancing is that your "going to fight the opposing faction", now i can understand this but hear me out. Your playing the same people over and over again. This is a big problem on a low pop server because they choose when they pvp and such! Thats the only reason why i feel instancing sucks for pvp.

now for bosses its a good idea only and only because the guild or group has all the time they want with out being harassed doing what they want to do in there.


I think instancing isn't as much as a problem if you don't fight the same people all the time... the biggest reason wow sucks is because of this...

http://nogg-aholic.blogspot.com/2006/02/why-wow-is-bad-game-reason-5.html
http://nogg-aholic.blogspot.com/2006/02/why-wow-is-bad-game-reason-8.html

and the biggest one of all

http://nogg-aholic.blogspot.com/2006/02/why-wow-is-bad-game-reason-1.html

14:18  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah nice argument idiot- i support you and i hate wow, being 60 myself (Ressurected - 60 Tauren Warrior - Blackrock Server).
But you just contradicted yourself on #8.
If there are lots of instances its a good thing cos it keeps u less bored for a little amount of time.
I support you though, but if you want to persuade people, keep up the constistancy.

04:23  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You think WoW is too instanced? Try playing games like D&D Online or Guild Wars. Their whole game worlds are practically instanced. WoW in comparision is not nearly as bad.

19:12  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

*tear*
I miss the old Hillsbrad Brawls :'(

Those were the best times of my time in WoW, other than when we had planned World PVP wars on Magtheridon, those rocked, I still never got to kiss the shoes of the two people that always arranged those.

05:15  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmm...damn...this guy...i think ive seen him on in the past month...and hes only complaining probably cause his account got hacked and he hates WoW now....Real mature

23:12  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Agreed. BGs killed pvp =( They should've made 1 minute ressers in hillsbrad and just had a huge battle of capturing a tower or something that would give honor. No limit of players just attack and defend.

23:36  
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22:54  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again agreed, and dear other annoying anonymous: IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR COMPLAINTS ABOUT WOW THEN YOU SHOULDN'T READ WHY WOW IS BAD, fucking dumbass -.- jeez

-CAN I GET AN A-MEN?

11:30  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A-MEN BROTHER!

00:38  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

instances aren't needed for everything ... thats why there are things like world bosses i.e. the throne of kil'jaeden

16:08  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"LOL MAKE A BETTER GAME"
How retarded are you? Do you actually waste your time making something better whenever you see something you don't like, say, for example, a movie? No?

Yeah, you still live in your mother's basement, dumbass, so of course you don't. Shut your whore mouth(s).

00:42  
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How does the dungeon finder sound to you? Perhaps you`ll have something bad to say about it too, no?

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